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the deficit isn't the product of spending. the economic down turn has left americans making less money in terms of spending. >> we spend each year more than we brought in. >> spending and revenue. our revenue has decreased and american -- >> i got to go. >> i got to go. >> spending budgets they have gone up under president obama and have held at $3.5 billion each year. >> i got to go. we can continue it another time. >> but it is also economic growth which it self might be a function of taxes and spending. if this economy were growing, you would have a substantially lower budget deficit. gentlemen we will welcome you back another time. >> there is at least one state in the northeast that gets it. natural gas shale and it is pennsylvania and the republican governor tom corebet is about to join us. he picks up support from chuck schumer who didn't get an apology for the anti-israel statements. if we were growing at 5% instead of 2% we would be close to a balanced budget today. i'm kudlow we will be right back. at 1:45, the aflac
the deficit isn't the product of spending. the economic down turn has left americans making less money in terms of spending. >> we spend each year more than we brought in. >> spending and revenue. our revenue has decreased and american -- >> i got to go. >> i got to go. >> spending budgets they have gone up under president obama and have held at $3.5 billion each year. >> i got to go. we can continue it another time. >> but it is also economic growth...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable, over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then, democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that, and we can achieve it fairly quickly. i mean we know what the numbers are. we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult. if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind, and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. i'm going to take one last question. jackie. >> i'd like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's longstanding, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to have become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular, that you
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable, over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then, democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that, and we can achieve it fairly quickly. i mean we know what the numbers are. we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's...
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you can't solve the deficit problem and our debt ongoing unless we in fact reduce our spending. the math doesn't work. >> let me ask you this. if you get spending cut ideas, are you going to agree to more tax increases? >> i think that's the negotiation that needs to happen. >> you want to go for more tax increases after the tax increases that went through on the fiscal cliff? >> i think closing loopholes, i think there has to be revenue enhancement and closing loopholes, already raised the tax rates, but there's got to be some spending cuts to go along with it. i'm not going to give away the store unless we get something in return. >> you did that already. did you that already at the end of the year? >> i'm not in congress thankfully. i'm running a very fiscally prudent state that's well managed and lives within its means and saves money for a rainy day and is growing the economy to produce more growth money by expanding a healthy economy. washington would do a lot to listen and watch what we're doing in utah because we're doing it right. >> you sure r.governor, thanks very muc
you can't solve the deficit problem and our debt ongoing unless we in fact reduce our spending. the math doesn't work. >> let me ask you this. if you get spending cut ideas, are you going to agree to more tax increases? >> i think that's the negotiation that needs to happen. >> you want to go for more tax increases after the tax increases that went through on the fiscal cliff? >> i think closing loopholes, i think there has to be revenue enhancement and closing...
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i mean, america still has got to deal with its deficit. okay. we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there in the background. you have a lot of debt, as well, still in the private sector, which needs to be fluffed off. there's a deraef raejing that you've been seeing right across the western world is still going to go on, i think, for the best part of this decade. >> and we heard leading up to this election that rarely has a u.s. president been elected with such high levels of unemployment. what was different this time? >> oh, i think it had something to do with the candidate he was facing not being able to energize the public. but i also think, look, reflatio
i mean, america still has got to deal with its deficit. okay. we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there...
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we must make the hard choices to reduce the chosts of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [ cheers and applause ] for we remember the lessons of our past when twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability had nowhere to turn. we do not believe that in this country freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us at any time may face a job loss or a sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen us. [ applause ] they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. [ cheers and applause ] we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves but to all poste
we must make the hard choices to reduce the chosts of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [ cheers and applause ] for we remember the lessons of our past when twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability had nowhere to turn. we do not believe that in this country freedom is reserved for the...
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he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president doesn't get to decide, you know, how much we're spending that's something that rests with congress. but in terms of what kate was saying with respect to, you know, him wanting to not really offer any cuts he's incurred the wrath of his party by offering chain cpi to social security. that's a reindexing of the cost of living index, revising down how much elderly people are getting. and he talk about potential fixes to medicare, potentially raising the age. it is not true that he's not willing to do that. i'll say there are a lot of people on
he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president...
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governor jerry brown saying he will have balanced budget after years of massive deficit. but is it real? probably not, say budget expert. they say that december money was probably a one-off tied to the fiscal cliff. the wealthy taking gains in december to avoid higher tax rates in 2013. revenues from the new california tax they say won't really kick in until this quarter or later in 2013 as brad williams a california budget expert told me, quote, we suspect the added revenues were related to the federal tax changes rather than the new state tax rates. now it all shows that california is more dependent than ever on the wealthy. the top 1% of earners, remember they pay up to half of the state's total income taxes but revenues from the rich are now harder than ever to predict. back to you guys. >> thank you, robert. let's go to michelle ka brumich >> you will have a lot more cartoons available on the kid section only and also the exclusive video streamers of the new seasons of dallas. as you can see, getting a big texas more with more than 2%. back to you, tyler. >> thank yo
governor jerry brown saying he will have balanced budget after years of massive deficit. but is it real? probably not, say budget expert. they say that december money was probably a one-off tied to the fiscal cliff. the wealthy taking gains in december to avoid higher tax rates in 2013. revenues from the new california tax they say won't really kick in until this quarter or later in 2013 as brad williams a california budget expert told me, quote, we suspect the added revenues were related to...
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the same time enact, let's say simpson-bowles ii, something that will take a very big bite out of the deficit over ten years. what's the reason for the stimulus today? to get the economy growing faster. >> would you be one? >> unlike the congress, the fed has done quite a lot and there isn't very much more the fed could do. i would certainly be with chairman bernanke. i was happy when they switched over, which is likely to have a bigger impact on the economy. the other thing i've been urging on the fed but they're not doing it is cut the interest rates by holding idle excess reserves in the hope that some of that will go into the economy. >> we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for your thoughts today. let's bring in don peebles of the peebles corporate. don, great to have you on the set today. >> good to be here. >> how does it play out? >> in the end it's a lot of drama about a profungtsry performance. the government needs to stand behind its credit. that's one of the benefits as a government, we get low rates because our credit is good. it's a shame we're spejd all this time.
the same time enact, let's say simpson-bowles ii, something that will take a very big bite out of the deficit over ten years. what's the reason for the stimulus today? to get the economy growing faster. >> would you be one? >> unlike the congress, the fed has done quite a lot and there isn't very much more the fed could do. i would certainly be with chairman bernanke. i was happy when they switched over, which is likely to have a bigger impact on the economy. the other thing i've...
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it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors, jim, whether it's a family not paying the credit card bills, the president saying it's like dining and dashing at a restaurant, the only thing is we've got two weeks of respite and then we're off to the races again. >> after the civil war, there was tremendous partisanship in this country. a tumultuous time. the level of bipartisanship. there's such hatred that you can't get in a room. it never seems like obama gets in the room. biden got in the room beforehand. but look, everybody hates each other down there. it's exactly the opposite of what you would expect from a respected nation. it makes us look mickey mouse. i don't blame fitch. look, we have to pay bills, the constitution says it, but everybody doesn't seem to care much about the
it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors, jim, whether it's a family not paying the credit card bills, the president saying it's like dining and dashing at a restaurant, the only thing is we've got two weeks of respite...
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one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade. which would stabilize our debt, and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable. so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research, all the things that help us grow. step by step, we've made progress towards that goal. over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago i signed into law more than $600 billion in new revenue. by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that we'll save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years. not counting the $400 billion already saved from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. so we've made progress. we are moving towards our ultimate g
one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade. which would stabilize our debt, and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable. so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research, all the things that help us grow. step by step, we've made progress towards...
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the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest part of the budget and the fastest growing part of the budget. it also, the $1.2 trillion is in the bank because of the discussions we had two years ago. >> you think the democrats would not see that as a credible threat? they would say go ahead, let the sequestration kick in? >> well, i think democrats and republicans alike would like to alter the way the sequestration works. but i hope that nobody's talking about not making good on our commitment to reach the $1.2 trillion. i'm certainly not. and those of us who are concerned on the across-th
the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest...
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he's the cow author of controversial simpson/bowles deficit reduction plan. find out what he has to say now as we're edging closer and closer to that debt ceiling. >>> later, no way to get to work equals no job. a new study shows 3.5 million jobs will be lost if we don't start rebuilding america's infrastructure, today. we'll debate the high-stakes issue affecting all of us in the back half of the program. don't miss it. back in a moment. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announ
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default would increase borrowing costs and therefore add to future budget deficits. this letter from the treasury secretary intended to put more political and public pressure on congress to do something on the debt ceiling. so we're seeing the administration across the board acting in a very conservative way today. >> thank you very much. >>> up next, he spent millions of his own money warning about dangers of socialism. now the next crisis in washington. tom peterffy will join me next. ♪ [ cows moo ] [ sizzling ] more rain... [ thunder rumbles ] ♪ [ male announcer ] when the world moves... futures move first. learn futures from experienced pros with dedicated chats and daily live webinars. and trade with papermoney to test-drive the market. ♪ all on thinkorswim. from td ameritrade. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark
default would increase borrowing costs and therefore add to future budget deficits. this letter from the treasury secretary intended to put more political and public pressure on congress to do something on the debt ceiling. so we're seeing the administration across the board acting in a very conservative way today. >> thank you very much. >>> up next, he spent millions of his own money warning about dangers of socialism. now the next crisis in washington. tom peterffy will join...
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this issue raises all the deficit issues. it should. it really is after the fact. >> the reason we're having the problem now because they don't pass a budget. >> yes. exactly. look, they're avoiding the really tough stuff, which is dealing with long term deficits which we face today. they're much worse than what we faced in the '80s and '90s. they've got to get serious about doing the hard work that has to be done on both sides of the aisle to deal with the specifics how you get this done. >> sir, do you think the u.s. has a spending problem? >> look, we've got a deficit problem. >> is that the same thing as a spending problem or is it different? >> you've got -- look, when i was in congress and when we balanced the budget in the '90s, we were taking in roughly, these figures will be a little off, roughly, we were taking in 20% of gdp and spending 20% of gdp. that seems to me to be a fair place to come out. maybe you could put it at 18, maybe you could put it at 21 or 22. but get an agreement on that, and then go to work on both sides o
this issue raises all the deficit issues. it should. it really is after the fact. >> the reason we're having the problem now because they don't pass a budget. >> yes. exactly. look, they're avoiding the really tough stuff, which is dealing with long term deficits which we face today. they're much worse than what we faced in the '80s and '90s. they've got to get serious about doing the hard work that has to be done on both sides of the aisle to deal with the specifics how you get...
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that's over $2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. doesn't get us all the way there, but it does get us largely about two-thirds of the way there to debt stabilization, at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course, we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. in the middle of it all, we have earnings season. you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs, cliff after cliff, has already impacted the earnings period. what are you looking at? what are you seeing from the fourth quarter reporting season so far? it's been a big week obviously this week for financials. >> we're seeing decent performance. i think compliments to corporate america. they've been able to grind out strong earnings growth with a relatively weak recovery. margins remain much higher than people thought. this has helped. we're seeing a recovery in the rest of the world. that's also helped. i think it's going to be a decent year. i don't think the
that's over $2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. doesn't get us all the way there, but it does get us largely about two-thirds of the way there to debt stabilization, at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course, we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. in the middle of it all, we have earnings season. you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs,...
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there is an issue with respect to fiscal deficit. where we saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period
there is an issue with respect to fiscal deficit. where we saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very...
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reasonable leadership out of washington and deal with the debt issue and begin to deal with our fiscal deficits. >> right. >> i think, maria, you could see a real positive lift because people are ready to invest. they need to feel some kind of inspiration, and i think they are ready to invest. >> that's what we're hearing across the board. real quick, you going to raise your dividend this spring? >> well, as you know, we have to go through the process, and we have to wait to see what the fed says, but i'm optimistic. i can't speak for the fed but i'm personally optimistic. >> we'll leave it there. mr. king, good to have you on the program. >> have a good day. >> and to you. chairman and ceo of bb&t. didn't hold on to the triple-digit gains. does that mean we're setting up for a pullback tomorrow? our panel of wall street pros will give you a leg up on what's going to move your money tomorrow. don't miss it. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you don't have to be a golf pro to walk like one. ♪ when you walk 10,000 steps a day, it's the same as walking a professional golf course. humana. health and wel
reasonable leadership out of washington and deal with the debt issue and begin to deal with our fiscal deficits. >> right. >> i think, maria, you could see a real positive lift because people are ready to invest. they need to feel some kind of inspiration, and i think they are ready to invest. >> that's what we're hearing across the board. real quick, you going to raise your dividend this spring? >> well, as you know, we have to go through the process, and we have to...
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it's been running a huge surplus which is the deficit of the other countries of europe that they cannot finance. >> correct. >> that is the essence of the european crisis. >> but in a global environment -- >> the whole question with respect to the u.s. is whether we can sustain our current account relationship with the rest of the world. and particularly with china. and that's a decision that the rest of the world will make. it's completely -- >> james, are we -- we added a new entitlement, obama care, which some, i don't know what that's going to cost. there's some groups, i guess they would call them, if they're too conservative, but trillions and trillions of dollars of additional entitlements that we've just layered over the entitlements we already have. are we at the right level now? is this the perfect level of promises we've made? or would you even go above where we are right now? >> well, i think the problem that we have is that our health care sector is bloated by this enormous private insurance system that we have. this sort of mixed bag of insurance schemes. that makes our he
it's been running a huge surplus which is the deficit of the other countries of europe that they cannot finance. >> correct. >> that is the essence of the european crisis. >> but in a global environment -- >> the whole question with respect to the u.s. is whether we can sustain our current account relationship with the rest of the world. and particularly with china. and that's a decision that the rest of the world will make. it's completely -- >> james, are we --...
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there are big daunting deficits in both of these entitlement projects. 701 the new 65, we're all living longer. even randall stephenson going as far as saying you know at at&t we're actually going to need people to work longer because we're not going to have many people coming up to fill in the ranks. >> my view is on the one hand it's easy for ceos to say go ahead and work until 70. they're not, working in a coal mine. on the other hand, when social security began at 1935, full benefits kicked in at 65. we're paying more benefits to more people longer today. >>> boeing, 787 is grounded worldwide. battery issue being investigated. is the faa culpable in this, bertha, or not? >> i'm not sure it's the faa. i'm wondering in terms of the testing of the batteries. that appears to be the major issue that we are seeing and could you really test them? is there a problem with the lithium batteries when you've been flying plaens? >> robby, you're a brand expert here. what would you be telling boeing to do today? and do you think the image of the 787 is so tarnished that it will become like the dc
there are big daunting deficits in both of these entitlement projects. 701 the new 65, we're all living longer. even randall stephenson going as far as saying you know at at&t we're actually going to need people to work longer because we're not going to have many people coming up to fill in the ranks. >> my view is on the one hand it's easy for ceos to say go ahead and work until 70. they're not, working in a coal mine. on the other hand, when social security began at 1935, full...
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they are more or less speaking to their deficit reduction target and very significantly this agreement which beat expectations. it certainly was a risk that met up the business association and the unions would not come to agreement about making the labor market more flexible, that it would have to be imposed by the legislature and that could have created more legislation. but in the end, they got three out of the last five unions to agree. >> do they have growth? >> well, you know, who does? i think at this point, i don't think we can ask too much out of france right now. they've got, i think, the targets for gdp is now 0.2%, 0.3%. but it's kind of the same thing facing the rest of europe. i don't know if that's is particular to them and they are going to be able to pay their debts. it's not going to be a spiral debt that puts us back into the crisis again. >>> national retail federation conference in new york kicks off a week for gatherings in the u.s. >> we'll take a look at what investors could glean from these events. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's sch
they are more or less speaking to their deficit reduction target and very significantly this agreement which beat expectations. it certainly was a risk that met up the business association and the unions would not come to agreement about making the labor market more flexible, that it would have to be imposed by the legislature and that could have created more legislation. but in the end, they got three out of the last five unions to agree. >> do they have growth? >> well, you know,...
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it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effect of way to improve your credit rating. >> ben bernanke says the u.s. economy appears to be willing to raise the debt ceiling. it's downplaying fierce that this could lead to higher inflation. >>. >> what do you think? >> well, i think, you know, what we've seen in the beginning of the year, like the solution of the fiscal cliff for the fist time in the more global renegotiation, what bernanke know and the government is they don't want the economy to be in another recession. probably it's going to be a slow process, but the final aim is there and everybody knows where we need to go. >> all right. let's remind you what's on today's show. we take a look out at the auto show. 5:30 eastern. spain is set to tap the bond market today. it's going to tell 12 and 18-month t bills. analysis is due in about 30 min
it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effect of way to improve your credit rating. >> ben bernanke says the u.s. economy appears to be willing to raise the debt ceiling. it's downplaying fierce that this could lead to higher inflation. >>. >> what do you think? >>...
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the always colorful senator alan simpson is with us, no bigger advocate of getting america's debt and deficit under control, but does he think the debt ceiling is the leverage that republicans should use to get that done? he'll join us exclusively, and i know you're going to ask him about that. >> absolutely. >> let's check out the action on the street right here. here's how things are shaping up with less than an hour to go. the dow jones industrial average hitting basically at the highs of the day. had been down around 60 points earlier. talking about a gain of 20 points on the blue chip average. fractional move at 13,527. nasdaq chart pattern looks similar. take a look though it's negative. down about nine points on the nasdaq, a quarter points lower and the s&p 500 looks like this. similar chart pattern as the dow up a fraction on the standard & poor's but still that's the high of the afternoon. let's get more on the markets in today's "closing bell" exchange by hank smith and steve from comcast funds and our own rick santelli. >> hello. >> good to see you guys. >> thank you so much for j
the always colorful senator alan simpson is with us, no bigger advocate of getting america's debt and deficit under control, but does he think the debt ceiling is the leverage that republicans should use to get that done? he'll join us exclusively, and i know you're going to ask him about that. >> absolutely. >> let's check out the action on the street right here. here's how things are shaping up with less than an hour to go. the dow jones industrial average hitting basically at the...
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then the risks accumulate and the federal reserve has been printing money to finance the government deficit, buying a lot of government bonds and at some point that is going to come apart and it might come apart, might come apart in a fashion that is rather like august of 2007 where things seem to be going smoothly and then all of a sudden it all falls apart and the question is do we have adequate contingency plans in place should that happen? >> right. >> i fear we do not. >> before we let you go, when these transcripts come out do they evoke any memories for you good or bad about these meetings? >> oh, well they evoke lots of memories. i haven't seen the transcripts of course. i look forward to reviewing it because that was my last full year in office. it was a wonderful experience to be there. i learned an awful lot. and certainly one of the things i reflect on is the various points that we missed that i missed and my colleagues missed. >> william poole, former st. louis fed president, thank you so much for your time. steve, thanks to you for sticking around. >> my pleasure. >> meantime
then the risks accumulate and the federal reserve has been printing money to finance the government deficit, buying a lot of government bonds and at some point that is going to come apart and it might come apart, might come apart in a fashion that is rather like august of 2007 where things seem to be going smoothly and then all of a sudden it all falls apart and the question is do we have adequate contingency plans in place should that happen? >> right. >> i fear we do not. >>...
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plus, senator rob portman on the deficit battle shaping up in congress. "squawk box" starts tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. eastern. let's go. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new cadillac xts... another big night on the town, eh? ...and the return of life lived large. ♪ nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male announcer ] just like you, business pro. just like you. go national. go like a pro.
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you were talking about debt and deficit and government spending 15, 20 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it in washington, but now they really are. here is a chance for you to take all you learned, what you learned on the way up, on the way down, in congress, in the governorship, and apply it to what is really the debate of our times. if you look, we're having a new fiscal crisis it seems every couple months. we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of the iceberg that is coming our way based on unbelievable demographics and unbelievably unsustainable government spending. what i want to do is take what i learned and hopefully apply it to again a great conundrum that now exists in washington, which is how do we get our financial house in order? >> i wish you all the very best. thank you for joining me again tonight. it's a pleasure to talk to you as it was last time. i genuinely wish you well. i'm glad you're making another go at this. good luck with it. >> i appreciate it, thanks. >>> a critic who says newtown changed everything, but the nra d
you were talking about debt and deficit and government spending 15, 20 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it in washington, but now they really are. here is a chance for you to take all you learned, what you learned on the way up, on the way down, in congress, in the governorship, and apply it to what is really the debate of our times. if you look, we're having a new fiscal crisis it seems every couple months. we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of...
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the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him spending a lot more time with members of congress. i think he brushed that aside when asked about it in a recent press conference. i think and you just had time with him, with the historians, but what i see in him is a man more confident, he's tougher, i think he's smarter politically, i think he's bolder. i'm not sure he's wiser in terms of how do you get things done in this city. that's where we'll have to let that play out. i think he may have a -- portrait of him in "the new york times" saying he's not only scarred but he has a smaller sense of what can be accomplished.
the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him...
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that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the bills that are already incurred by your democratically elected congress. now that we've hit the debt limit, exceeded it a little bit, the treasury has two options. they can fiddle around with $200 billion the way you would if you're a little short on your monthly bills, paying some now, refinancing a little bit. that would get us through mid-february to early march. once that stops working the treasury needs to rely on the cash it has on hand and the revenue that comes in each day from taxes. problem is there isn't alw
that is the deficit. you take the sum total of those annual deficits and enter oast on them and that creates the national debt which right now is about 16.4 and change trillion dollars. now, the u.s. treasury is empowered to borrow money to make up the shortfall between revenue and expenses, the deficit. but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the...
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if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put off others. we're not entirely sure that prioritizing payments is legal but that's probably what they will have to do. the treasury could wait until it has enough revenue on hand to cover one full day's payments and means all the bills would be paid late and we know how that storts starts to look. johnny isakson is a member of the senate finance committee. senator, thank you for being with us. i wanted to talk with you for quite some time. you have an extensive, extensive business background. and you can agree that deciding to pay some bills but not others while you wait to scrap
if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got a shortfall of $43 billion. they need to prioritize bills on that day. they can put...
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like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are 60 votes in the senate, 219 votes in the house, if the process can just play itself out and we can really get votes on some of these things we think. but it's going to be hard work. >> what's -- as far as you're concerned, the window in a second term for a president to get something done? we certainly hear 14, 16 months and then he's kind of in lame duck status. >> i don't believe that let's look at where we are now, not like casting about -- roaming the halls of the house looking for things to do. whether it is deficit reduction, energy, gun control, safety, immigration, these are all stacked u
like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are...
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the second thing is that goes hand in hand with the debt and the deficit. and while republicans love to think that obama's not focused on the debt and deficit, doesn't want to do anything about it, that is absolutely not the case. he has said from the very beginning that it is a big priority but that we need to do it in a balanced way so that we don't hurt those that are most vulnerable. the third is immigration. after this election, the latino community, the latino vote, big reason why this president was re-elected. he owes them that. it has been a priority for him. he is going to find a way to get it done. hopefully republicans understand if they want a chance to get to the white house any time in the next four years, eight years, a generation, they'll have to do something on immigration. >> all right. so, amy, maria's number three is your number one. which is immigration. number two is obama care. number three, mystery scandal. so, let's talk about immigration, first. though i'm dying to get to that scandal. >> good morning. it's so great to see that vie
the second thing is that goes hand in hand with the debt and the deficit. and while republicans love to think that obama's not focused on the debt and deficit, doesn't want to do anything about it, that is absolutely not the case. he has said from the very beginning that it is a big priority but that we need to do it in a balanced way so that we don't hurt those that are most vulnerable. the third is immigration. after this election, the latino community, the latino vote, big reason why this...
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but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> and, remember, you can catch a special inauguration coverage right here on cnn live coverage begins on sunday. continuing into monday. our mornings begin at 9:00 a.m. eastern. don't miss it. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look
but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine...
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the deficit, we know that's been in the news lately, 41%. so it depends on the issue. >> and gun policy is in there as well. that snuck in there. has the president lived up to expectations, do you think, according to our polls? >> we asked just that and you can see from these results, about one in ten, 13% said he has exceeded expectations over the last four years. about four in ten says he's met expectations. a slight majority says yes, he's met or exceeded expectations. at the bottom, almost half said he fell short of expectations. these numbers are a little bit better now than they were a year and a half ago. >> the man with all the numbers for us this morning. paul steinhauser, nice to see you here. this weekend, the focus is on the inauguration, as we've been talking about, but it is the next four years that concern president obama, of course. the problems and the potential pitfalls. oh! progress-oh! [ female announcer ] with 40 delicious progresso soups at 100 calories or less, there are plenty of reasons people are saying "progress-oh
the deficit, we know that's been in the news lately, 41%. so it depends on the issue. >> and gun policy is in there as well. that snuck in there. has the president lived up to expectations, do you think, according to our polls? >> we asked just that and you can see from these results, about one in ten, 13% said he has exceeded expectations over the last four years. about four in ten says he's met expectations. a slight majority says yes, he's met or exceeded expectations. at the...
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there's been deficit reduction they've managed to get done in the past year. the problem, i think, is political. it's not economic. right now, congress is obviously very divided. they're not working together. they're going to have to, if they want to, for instance, raise the debt ceiling and avoid a financial crisis. the question is, can barack obama do a better job of helping them do that because there's been a lot of complaints in congress that he hasn't been leading. he has even offended members of congress by applying they're not doing their job. so i think there's this political question that's overlaid this very thorny economic question. >> will the leadership of this president make a difference? will he have to lead differently than he did in the first time? >> he does and i think he has already learned how to. he has shown a learning curving, the way he has framed the debt ceiling debate saying he will not let america be held hostage in these negotiations. that's one of the real key questions of a second term. can you go from lucky or good to good to g
there's been deficit reduction they've managed to get done in the past year. the problem, i think, is political. it's not economic. right now, congress is obviously very divided. they're not working together. they're going to have to, if they want to, for instance, raise the debt ceiling and avoid a financial crisis. the question is, can barack obama do a better job of helping them do that because there's been a lot of complaints in congress that he hasn't been leading. he has even offended...
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medicare, social security, deficits, taxes, spending. so, a lot of the things he talked about in the first speech, still with him in the second. >> we're going to talk about a lot more ahead. go live to the white house in just minutes to actually see the president renew his oath of office and, again, his second term. stick with us. >>> also, we'll bring you a candid look at the first family's daily life. first lady has a new agenda. first, this inaugural flashback. >> obama! >> thank you. >> obama! >> thank you. >> there was a magic to the inaugural day for president obama. the first african-american to be president, as if the whole history of our country was coming full circle with the ending of slivery and now the first african-american president. >> the man whose father less than 60 years ago might not have been served at a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath. >> the crowds were reveling in that spirit. 1.8 million than have ever been there before. just the idea that we have come this far as a nation.
medicare, social security, deficits, taxes, spending. so, a lot of the things he talked about in the first speech, still with him in the second. >> we're going to talk about a lot more ahead. go live to the white house in just minutes to actually see the president renew his oath of office and, again, his second term. stick with us. >>> also, we'll bring you a candid look at the first family's daily life. first lady has a new agenda. first, this inaugural flashback. >>...
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the deficit has got to be dealt with. debt has got to be dealt with. spending has got to be dealt with. we can't just continue raising the debt limit without there being a balancing of the budget, like we would all have to balance our budgets at home. and i think republicans are looking at what the plan is long-term. but it was a very good retreat for republicans. i saw a lot of unity that i didn't expect after all the drama we've seen. >> what drama?! come on. listen, we also want to talk about immigration. the president has certainly spent a lot of time talking about immigration and the dream act. i want you to listen to what he has said. >> so there's no reason that we can't come together and get this done. and as long as i'm president, i will not give up on this issue. not only because it's the right thing to do for our economy, and ceos agree with me, not just because it's the right thing to do for our security, but because it's the right thing to do, period. and i believe that eventually, enough republicans in congress will come around to that vi
the deficit has got to be dealt with. debt has got to be dealt with. spending has got to be dealt with. we can't just continue raising the debt limit without there being a balancing of the budget, like we would all have to balance our budgets at home. and i think republicans are looking at what the plan is long-term. but it was a very good retreat for republicans. i saw a lot of unity that i didn't expect after all the drama we've seen. >> what drama?! come on. listen, we also want to...
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you put me back in i'm going to focus on immigration, energy, i'm going to focus on this god awful deficit and debt we have. those seemed to be the three long-term things he was playing for and then newton happened and like every parent, like every american, his heart was broken and he has taken this incredibly politically difficult and divisive issue of gun safety and put it ahead i think of debt and deficit, immigration and energy. he had to respond to what happened and people right now are judging that response. >> there's a blueprint. certainly there's a blueprint and they're working on the blueprint. plans on how they'll pursue gun control and plans on how they'll pursue immigration. massive rollouts in the next few weeks. marco rubio seasoning the house for possible transformative legislation. >> 2016 happened right here right now. >> and she wasn't even the first. >> wasn't even the first. margaret and paul, thank you for joining us to talk ability these fascinating issues. >> and when we return, a sneak peek at tomorrow's parade route and security measures in place around the capit
you put me back in i'm going to focus on immigration, energy, i'm going to focus on this god awful deficit and debt we have. those seemed to be the three long-term things he was playing for and then newton happened and like every parent, like every american, his heart was broken and he has taken this incredibly politically difficult and divisive issue of gun safety and put it ahead i think of debt and deficit, immigration and energy. he had to respond to what happened and people right now are...
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when you look at the agenda now, there's the economy, the deficit, gun control, immigration. what should the president do first to show republicans he's not looking for revenge or looking to pick fights? >> i would say the budget. to make an honest attempt on both sides to try to reduce spending or reduce the growth in spending. that to me is the one place where there is enough on the table that both sides can make progress if they want to. you get into gun control, i basically support the president's program, but he's not going to get very much support at all among republicans for that. that's a good political point for him, but i don't see it going anywhere. as far as the illegal immigration or making it legal or whatever, reform, i would say there's an opportunity, people like marco rubio, for instance, and others, and also you have the chamber of commerce, you have some republican vested interest. i would say the budget and immigration are the two areas, spending and immigration. >> can he get through some simple things on gun control, if not a ban on assault weapons. tha
when you look at the agenda now, there's the economy, the deficit, gun control, immigration. what should the president do first to show republicans he's not looking for revenge or looking to pick fights? >> i would say the budget. to make an honest attempt on both sides to try to reduce spending or reduce the growth in spending. that to me is the one place where there is enough on the table that both sides can make progress if they want to. you get into gun control, i basically support...
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taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more cooperative, working environment. to you, sir, what does the republican party need to do to try to get some things done? >> i have to differ with the preface, john. >> i thought you might. >> barack obama -- look, this notion that partisanship has taken over. it began when barack obama became president. i was chairman of the financial service committee of 2007 in the bush administration and i worked very closely with hank paulson, secretary of the treasury. we worked on putting fannie mae and freddie mac to stop the lawsuits. george bush went to harry reid
taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more...
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reforming immigration, reducing the deficit gun control, averting climate change, maybe iran's nuclear program. certainly you get a sense it's going to be mainly domestic. certainly if you're looking at the tick box in the first four years, i would say killing bin laden, killing gadhafi, the american help to the arab spring, although it's not without difficulty, pulling troops in iraq and setting a timetable for afghanistan, these have all been a seen that president obama would rather focus on domestic issues rather than foreign issues. >> i think that's true. and i think you see that when he takes the bully pulpit. he doesn't go out and speak well. they' had several blunders on foreign policy issues. the most recent one is a failure for america to retaliate in some meaningful or symbolic way on the death of an american ambassador in benghazi. >> interesting point. the george bush administration would have piled in there, blown things to pieces and exacted terrible retribution. that's the american way for a long time. is that the right way? would that created, however awful the inciden
reforming immigration, reducing the deficit gun control, averting climate change, maybe iran's nuclear program. certainly you get a sense it's going to be mainly domestic. certainly if you're looking at the tick box in the first four years, i would say killing bin laden, killing gadhafi, the american help to the arab spring, although it's not without difficulty, pulling troops in iraq and setting a timetable for afghanistan, these have all been a seen that president obama would rather focus on...
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he's more interested in that than i think than getting the deficits under control. >> one thing i will say four years ago before his first inauguration, he went to the waup editorial meeting and he talked a good game. he knows you need to put this country on a sustainable path not just for the economy but also just for dealing with our lock-term debt and american competitiveness. does he use his leverage like clinton did with welfare reform to try to come up with an acceptable solution on this key issue because we're confronting the debt, the republicans in congress are focused on it. it's going to be an area where he will have some maneuverability in the next two years. >> does he have that leverage? on the one hand he's got a republican base that says give us those big entitlement changes or we won't give you anything but he's got a democratic party that's already going to think ahead to the midterm elections. you have new voices. senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts said i will not cut medicare. >> and chuck schumer said today that the senate would come up with its own budget.
he's more interested in that than i think than getting the deficits under control. >> one thing i will say four years ago before his first inauguration, he went to the waup editorial meeting and he talked a good game. he knows you need to put this country on a sustainable path not just for the economy but also just for dealing with our lock-term debt and american competitiveness. does he use his leverage like clinton did with welfare reform to try to come up with an acceptable solution on...
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republicans worked with democrats to fix social security, bill clinton could look back and talk about the deficit reduction plan. other things they had done a little bit together. it's harder for president obama to do that because there's been so much polarization. >> polarization has been on both sides. it would be a good step for the president, i actually don't expect him to take it. to try to put that behind, to have at least a rhetorical frame for being more enveloping. obviously in the last few days, last week or so, he hasn't taken that tact. he's, he had his press conference about a week ago. he's had some, they've floated some stories about how they're going to have a more confrontational stand. and that seems to be the direction they're planning to take. nevertheless, at least if i were in their position, i would be saying, you need to rhetorically try to put that behind the country. if the opposition then doesn't take, reach out and pick up the mantle that you've offered to them, that's their problem. >> does the president have to refer to the bitterly divided country and congress? i me
republicans worked with democrats to fix social security, bill clinton could look back and talk about the deficit reduction plan. other things they had done a little bit together. it's harder for president obama to do that because there's been so much polarization. >> polarization has been on both sides. it would be a good step for the president, i actually don't expect him to take it. to try to put that behind, to have at least a rhetorical frame for being more enveloping. obviously in...
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we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> reporter: presidential improvement. >> i don't look at my pension, and it's not as big as yours. so it doesn't take as long. >> reporter: presidential victory. a time to look back at sports teams, disaster, promises kept, most troops out of iraq, sports teams, disaster. upheaval. gadhafi dead. sports teams, sports teams, promises broken. guantanamo still open. disaster, tragedy. ft. hood, tucson. >> our hearts are broken by their sudden passing. >> reporter: colorado, newtown. >> for those of us who remain, let us find the strength to carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. >> reporter: fiscal debate, fiscal discord, fiscal destiny. sports teams, sports teams, sports teams. >> now, where were we? >> reporter: we were here, j
we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> reporter: presidential improvement. >> i don't look at my pension, and it's not as big as yours. so it doesn't take as long. >> reporter: presidential victory. a time to look back at sports teams, disaster, promises kept, most troops out of iraq, sports teams, disaster. upheaval. gadhafi dead. sports teams, sports teams, promises broken. guantanamo still open. disaster, tragedy. ft. hood, tucson. >> our hearts are broken by...
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the consensus is, we need about $4 trillion to stabilize our debt and our deficit. which means we need about $1.5 trillion more. the package that i offered to speaker boehner before we -- before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure that we are being responsible about our debt and our deficit, if that's the conversation we're having, i'm happy to have that conversation. and by cin
the consensus is, we need about $4 trillion to stabilize our debt and our deficit. which means we need about $1.5 trillion more. the package that i offered to speaker boehner before we -- before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure that we are being responsible about our debt and our deficit, if that's the conversation we're having, i'm happy to have that conversation. and by cin
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that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be
that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this...